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  • 1.  The odd business of journal publishing

    Posted 03-25-2019 08:58

    Dear Fellow SIMians and IABSians:

     

    It was a pleasure to see many of you in San Diego at the IABS 30th anniversary meeting. On Sunday morning, Brad Agle and I convened a meeting to discuss the state of the academic publishing industry. Many could not attend, so I've attached the slides from that lively meeting (absent the extra pictures of Brad) .

     

    Best,

    Mike

     

    PS: I don't seem to have access to the IABS list-serv, and so am sending this to the SIM list, as there is considerable overlap. For anyone with IABS list access, please feel free to share. Thanks.

     

     

    Michael L. Barnett

    Professor of Management & Global Business, and Dean's Research Professor

    Rutgers Business School – Newark & New Brunswick

    http://www.business.rutgers.edu/faculty/michael-barnett

    Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&pli=1&user=27_fCmIAAAAJ

    Interim Executive Director, Rutgers Institute for Corporate Social Innovation

    Incoming Editor-in-Chief, Business & Society

    Fellow, Rutgers Institute for Ethical Leadership

    Fellow, Rutgers Leadership Academy, Class of 2017-19

    Distinguished Visiting Professor, Social Innovations Group, EGADE Business School, Tecnologico de Monterrey

    International Research Fellow, Oxford University Centre for Corporate Reputation

    Latest book, Limits to Stakeholder Influence: https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/limits-to-stakeholder-influence

     

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  • 2.  The odd business of journal publishing

    Posted 03-25-2019 16:02

    Hi Mike.

     

    I wish to applaud you (and Brad) for initiating such an important conversation. I am hopeful that IABS and SIM will consider the critical ethical question of open access and information sharing. They are core of knowledge advancement and the foundation for our academic research. I support an open and honest discussion about these issues, as well as any effort to imagine what an alternative approach might look like. Count me in!

     

    Thanks again.

     

    Best wishes, Nicole

     

    Nicole Darnall

    Associate Dean

    Professor of Management and Public Policy

    School of Sustainability | Arizona State University 

    Sustainable Purchasing Research Initiative

    +1 602 496 0445 | Publications | Twitter | SPRI

    Assistant: Kimberly.Grout.1@asu.edu | +1 480 727 0957

     

    From: Social Issues in Management Listserv <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Michael Barnett <mbarnett@BUSINESS.RUTGERS.EDU>
    Reply-To: Michael Barnett <mbarnett@BUSINESS.RUTGERS.EDU>
    Date: Monday, March 25, 2019 at 6:06 AM
    To: "SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Dear Fellow SIMians and IABSians:

     

    It was a pleasure to see many of you in San Diego at the IABS 30th anniversary meeting. On Sunday morning, Brad Agle and I convened a meeting to discuss the state of the academic publishing industry. Many could not attend, so I've attached the slides from that lively meeting (absent the extra pictures of Brad) .

     

    Best,

    Mike

     

    PS: I don't seem to have access to the IABS list-serv, and so am sending this to the SIM list, as there is considerable overlap. For anyone with IABS list access, please feel free to share. Thanks.

     

     

    Michael L. Barnett

    Professor of Management & Global Business, and Dean's Research Professor

    Rutgers Business School – Newark & New Brunswick

    http://www.business.rutgers.edu/faculty/michael-barnett

    Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&pli=1&user=27_fCmIAAAAJ

    Interim Executive Director, Rutgers Institute for Corporate Social Innovation

    Incoming Editor-in-Chief, Business & Society

    Fellow, Rutgers Institute for Ethical Leadership

    Fellow, Rutgers Leadership Academy, Class of 2017-19

    Distinguished Visiting Professor, Social Innovations Group, EGADE Business School, Tecnologico de Monterrey

    International Research Fellow, Oxford University Centre for Corporate Reputation

    Latest book, Limits to Stakeholder Influence: https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/limits-to-stakeholder-influence

     

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  • 3.  The odd business of journal publishing

    Posted 03-25-2019 16:14

    Thank you kindly, Nicole. And to all: I've received several inquiries asking "what was decided" at this meeting. The answer: nada. The meeting wasn't a forum for making decisions. Rather, it was intended to build awareness of the issue and to initiate a conversation that will be ongoing for some time. From the meeting, it became evident that some feel strongly about maintaining the journal Business & Society as is, despite the oddity of the current system, while others strongly feel the need to move to an open source format, and yet others feel the weight of both sides but aren't really sure how to process all of this. I know that the leadership of IABS is looking into the issue in depth and will have more information regarding at least procedural issues soon.

     

    Best,

    Mike

     

     

    From: Nicole Darnall <ndarnall@asu.edu>
    Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 4:02 PM
    To: Michael Barnett <mbarnett@business.rutgers.edu>; SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Hi Mike.

     

    I wish to applaud you (and Brad) for initiating such an important conversation. I am hopeful that IABS and SIM will consider the critical ethical question of open access and information sharing. They are core of knowledge advancement and the foundation for our academic research. I support an open and honest discussion about these issues, as well as any effort to imagine what an alternative approach might look like. Count me in!

     

    Thanks again.

     

    Best wishes, Nicole

     

    Nicole Darnall

    Associate Dean

    Professor of Management and Public Policy

    School of Sustainability | Arizona State University 

    Sustainable Purchasing Research Initiative

    +1 602 496 0445 | Publications | Twitter | SPRI

    Assistant: Kimberly.Grout.1@asu.edu | +1 480 727 0957

     

    From: Social Issues in Management Listserv <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Michael Barnett <mbarnett@BUSINESS.RUTGERS.EDU>
    Reply-To: Michael Barnett <mbarnett@BUSINESS.RUTGERS.EDU>
    Date: Monday, March 25, 2019 at 6:06 AM
    To: "SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Dear Fellow SIMians and IABSians:

     

    It was a pleasure to see many of you in San Diego at the IABS 30th anniversary meeting. On Sunday morning, Brad Agle and I convened a meeting to discuss the state of the academic publishing industry. Many could not attend, so I've attached the slides from that lively meeting (absent the extra pictures of Brad) .

     

    Best,

    Mike

     

    PS: I don't seem to have access to the IABS list-serv, and so am sending this to the SIM list, as there is considerable overlap. For anyone with IABS list access, please feel free to share. Thanks.

     

     

    Michael L. Barnett

    Professor of Management & Global Business, and Dean's Research Professor

    Rutgers Business School – Newark & New Brunswick

    http://www.business.rutgers.edu/faculty/michael-barnett

    Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&pli=1&user=27_fCmIAAAAJ

    Interim Executive Director, Rutgers Institute for Corporate Social Innovation

    Incoming Editor-in-Chief, Business & Society

    Fellow, Rutgers Institute for Ethical Leadership

    Fellow, Rutgers Leadership Academy, Class of 2017-19

    Distinguished Visiting Professor, Social Innovations Group, EGADE Business School, Tecnologico de Monterrey

    International Research Fellow, Oxford University Centre for Corporate Reputation

    Latest book, Limits to Stakeholder Influence: https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/limits-to-stakeholder-influence

     

    _______________________________________________________________________

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  • 4.  The odd business of journal publishing

    Posted 03-25-2019 16:47

    The concepts of open access/open source are intriguing and have a lot to recommend them.  For me however, there are two key issues that may or may not have been addressed at the IABS meeting so if I am being repetitive please accept my apologies.

     

    First, open source/open access often means access to the data used in the analysis.  While I am fine with that if I am using publically available data or survey data I collected myself, if we are using proprietary datasets (e.g. KLD/MSCI, Asset4 etc.) the contracts for those data prohibit sharing with non-coauthors.  As such, because virtually all of my empirical works uses such datasets, I could not participate in our journal if access to data was a part of the open access/open source requirements.

     

    Secondly, I presume that open access/open source means online.  While I would presume that we would maintain the same editorial rigor that we currently employ, transferring  BAS to an "online" journal runs smack dab into the institutionalized beliefs that online journals just aren't as "good" as regular journals. Unless we had a plan to educate departments around the world about the error of that fallacy that actually would help our brethren who are still worried about tenure and promotion (there are a few advantages of being closer to the end than the beginning of one's career) then again I would not be supportive.

     

    Thoughts?

     

    Mark

     

     

    Mark Sharfman, PhD.

    Puterbaugh Chair in American Enterprise

    Business & Society Associate Editor

    Director, Sports Management Program

    Director (Chair), Division of Management & International Business

    Price College of Business

    307 W. Brooks - Rm. 206A

    University of Oklahoma

    Norman, OK 73019-0450 USA

    +405.325.5689 (voice)

    +405.325.7688 (fax)

    Msharfman@ou.edu

     

    http://www.ou.edu/price/management_ib/faculty/Mark_Sharfman.html

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    From: Social Issues in Management Listserv [mailto:SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] On Behalf Of Michael Barnett
    Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 3:14 PM
    To: SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Thank you kindly, Nicole. And to all: I've received several inquiries asking "what was decided" at this meeting. The answer: nada. The meeting wasn't a forum for making decisions. Rather, it was intended to build awareness of the issue and to initiate a conversation that will be ongoing for some time. From the meeting, it became evident that some feel strongly about maintaining the journal Business & Society as is, despite the oddity of the current system, while others strongly feel the need to move to an open source format, and yet others feel the weight of both sides but aren't really sure how to process all of this. I know that the leadership of IABS is looking into the issue in depth and will have more information regarding at least procedural issues soon.

     

    Best,

    Mike

     

     

    From: Nicole Darnall <ndarnall@asu.edu>
    Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 4:02 PM
    To: Michael Barnett <mbarnett@business.rutgers.edu>; SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Hi Mike.

     

    I wish to applaud you (and Brad) for initiating such an important conversation. I am hopeful that IABS and SIM will consider the critical ethical question of open access and information sharing. They are core of knowledge advancement and the foundation for our academic research. I support an open and honest discussion about these issues, as well as any effort to imagine what an alternative approach might look like. Count me in!

     

    Thanks again.

     

    Best wishes, Nicole

     

    Nicole Darnall

    Associate Dean

    Professor of Management and Public Policy

    School of Sustainability | Arizona State University 

    Sustainable Purchasing Research Initiative

    +1 602 496 0445 | Publications | Twitter | SPRI

    Assistant: Kimberly.Grout.1@asu.edu | +1 480 727 0957

     

    From: Social Issues in Management Listserv <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Michael Barnett <mbarnett@BUSINESS.RUTGERS.EDU>
    Reply-To: Michael Barnett <mbarnett@BUSINESS.RUTGERS.EDU>
    Date: Monday, March 25, 2019 at 6:06 AM
    To: "SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Dear Fellow SIMians and IABSians:

     

    It was a pleasure to see many of you in San Diego at the IABS 30th anniversary meeting. On Sunday morning, Brad Agle and I convened a meeting to discuss the state of the academic publishing industry. Many could not attend, so I've attached the slides from that lively meeting (absent the extra pictures of Brad) .

     

    Best,

    Mike

     

    PS: I don't seem to have access to the IABS list-serv, and so am sending this to the SIM list, as there is considerable overlap. For anyone with IABS list access, please feel free to share. Thanks.

     

     

    Michael L. Barnett

    Professor of Management & Global Business, and Dean's Research Professor

    Rutgers Business School – Newark & New Brunswick

    http://www.business.rutgers.edu/faculty/michael-barnett

    Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&pli=1&user=27_fCmIAAAAJ

    Interim Executive Director, Rutgers Institute for Corporate Social Innovation

    Incoming Editor-in-Chief, Business & Society

    Fellow, Rutgers Institute for Ethical Leadership

    Fellow, Rutgers Leadership Academy, Class of 2017-19

    Distinguished Visiting Professor, Social Innovations Group, EGADE Business School, Tecnologico de Monterrey

    International Research Fellow, Oxford University Centre for Corporate Reputation

    Latest book, Limits to Stakeholder Influence: https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/limits-to-stakeholder-influence

     

    _______________________________________________________________________

    To send a message to the list, send your email to SIM@aomlists.pace.edu

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  • 5.  The odd business of journal publishing

    Posted 03-25-2019 16:59

    Hi Mark. Thanks for bringing those two key issues forward.

     

    Regarding the first, I do not think that open access requires open source. Open source might be yet another issue that needs to be attended to, but I don't think we need to tangle it up in this particular (already complex) conversation. In sum, I don't think you'd have to publically disclose your data in this instance.

     

    Regarding the second, it is institutionalized beliefs that are at the root of this entire problem. The inability to judge the quality of an individual paper, independent of the journal in which it is published, is why journals, and so their owners, have tremendous pricing power. So yes, we'd have to address bias in how any new format would be received. The general approach is to encourage senior scholars, who have more security, to provide their work in their early years in order to build up the journal's profile. If and when it achieves a high impact factor, its online status will come along with it (as others have proved).

     

    That's my take. But I'm going to tail off a bit, as I don't want this to be "Mike's Movement"; all await others to respond to such questions as they arise.

     

    Best,

    Mike

     

    From: Sharfman, Mark P. <msharfman@ou.edu>
    Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 4:47 PM
    To: Michael Barnett <mbarnett@business.rutgers.edu>; SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: RE: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    The concepts of open access/open source are intriguing and have a lot to recommend them.  For me however, there are two key issues that may or may not have been addressed at the IABS meeting so if I am being repetitive please accept my apologies.

     

    First, open source/open access often means access to the data used in the analysis.  While I am fine with that if I am using publically available data or survey data I collected myself, if we are using proprietary datasets (e.g. KLD/MSCI, Asset4 etc.) the contracts for those data prohibit sharing with non-coauthors.  As such, because virtually all of my empirical works uses such datasets, I could not participate in our journal if access to data was a part of the open access/open source requirements.

     

    Secondly, I presume that open access/open source means online.  While I would presume that we would maintain the same editorial rigor that we currently employ, transferring  BAS to an "online" journal runs smack dab into the institutionalized beliefs that online journals just aren't as "good" as regular journals. Unless we had a plan to educate departments around the world about the error of that fallacy that actually would help our brethren who are still worried about tenure and promotion (there are a few advantages of being closer to the end than the beginning of one's career) then again I would not be supportive.

     

    Thoughts?

     

    Mark

     

     

    Mark Sharfman, PhD.

    Puterbaugh Chair in American Enterprise

    Business & Society Associate Editor

    Director, Sports Management Program

    Director (Chair), Division of Management & International Business

    Price College of Business

    307 W. Brooks - Rm. 206A

    University of Oklahoma

    Norman, OK 73019-0450 USA

    +405.325.5689 (voice)

    +405.325.7688 (fax)

    Msharfman@ou.edu

     

    http://www.ou.edu/price/management_ib/faculty/Mark_Sharfman.html

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    From: Social Issues in Management Listserv [mailto:SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] On Behalf Of Michael Barnett
    Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 3:14 PM
    To: SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Thank you kindly, Nicole. And to all: I've received several inquiries asking "what was decided" at this meeting. The answer: nada. The meeting wasn't a forum for making decisions. Rather, it was intended to build awareness of the issue and to initiate a conversation that will be ongoing for some time. From the meeting, it became evident that some feel strongly about maintaining the journal Business & Society as is, despite the oddity of the current system, while others strongly feel the need to move to an open source format, and yet others feel the weight of both sides but aren't really sure how to process all of this. I know that the leadership of IABS is looking into the issue in depth and will have more information regarding at least procedural issues soon.

     

    Best,

    Mike

     

     

    From: Nicole Darnall <ndarnall@asu.edu>
    Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 4:02 PM
    To: Michael Barnett <mbarnett@business.rutgers.edu>; SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Hi Mike.

     

    I wish to applaud you (and Brad) for initiating such an important conversation. I am hopeful that IABS and SIM will consider the critical ethical question of open access and information sharing. They are core of knowledge advancement and the foundation for our academic research. I support an open and honest discussion about these issues, as well as any effort to imagine what an alternative approach might look like. Count me in!

     

    Thanks again.

     

    Best wishes, Nicole

     

    Nicole Darnall

    Associate Dean

    Professor of Management and Public Policy

    School of Sustainability | Arizona State University 

    Sustainable Purchasing Research Initiative

    +1 602 496 0445 | Publications | Twitter | SPRI

    Assistant: Kimberly.Grout.1@asu.edu | +1 480 727 0957

     

    From: Social Issues in Management Listserv <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Michael Barnett <mbarnett@BUSINESS.RUTGERS.EDU>
    Reply-To: Michael Barnett <mbarnett@BUSINESS.RUTGERS.EDU>
    Date: Monday, March 25, 2019 at 6:06 AM
    To: "SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Dear Fellow SIMians and IABSians:

     

    It was a pleasure to see many of you in San Diego at the IABS 30th anniversary meeting. On Sunday morning, Brad Agle and I convened a meeting to discuss the state of the academic publishing industry. Many could not attend, so I've attached the slides from that lively meeting (absent the extra pictures of Brad) .

     

    Best,

    Mike

     

    PS: I don't seem to have access to the IABS list-serv, and so am sending this to the SIM list, as there is considerable overlap. For anyone with IABS list access, please feel free to share. Thanks.

     

     

    Michael L. Barnett

    Professor of Management & Global Business, and Dean's Research Professor

    Rutgers Business School – Newark & New Brunswick

    http://www.business.rutgers.edu/faculty/michael-barnett

    Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&pli=1&user=27_fCmIAAAAJ

    Interim Executive Director, Rutgers Institute for Corporate Social Innovation

    Incoming Editor-in-Chief, Business & Society

    Fellow, Rutgers Institute for Ethical Leadership

    Fellow, Rutgers Leadership Academy, Class of 2017-19

    Distinguished Visiting Professor, Social Innovations Group, EGADE Business School, Tecnologico de Monterrey

    International Research Fellow, Oxford University Centre for Corporate Reputation

    Latest book, Limits to Stakeholder Influence: https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/limits-to-stakeholder-influence

     

    _______________________________________________________________________

    To send a message to the list, send your email to SIM@aomlists.pace.edu

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  • 6.  The odd business of journal publishing

    Posted 03-25-2019 17:16
    Long time lurker here. I find the subject fascinating and wanted to chime in with my experience. I have been working with a number of smaller journals to help find a middle of the road solution that leaves the journal in control of their material and copyright but the content is still behind a paywall and the peer review process is systematized. It does require more hands-on time from the editor but the journal ends up with 70% of the profit vs the 6% cited earlier. In some cases this provides a format for both online and printed mediums which has been well-received especially from the international community.

    While still in the beginning phases, the initial feedback has been good. Again, these are smaller and lesser known journals who perhaps have less to lose and are working on building impact than a well-established journal. 

    For us, we are most concerned with the ethical implications that arise when we are serving those without resources to help democratize access to scholarship, we do so by providing coupon codes to lessen the burden of subscriptions.

    I'm encouraged to see the conversation taking place. 

    All the best,
    Tracy

    On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 4:59 PM Michael Barnett <mbarnett@business.rutgers.edu> wrote:

    Hi Mark. Thanks for bringing those two key issues forward.

     

    Regarding the first, I do not think that open access requires open source. Open source might be yet another issue that needs to be attended to, but I don't think we need to tangle it up in this particular (already complex) conversation. In sum, I don't think you'd have to publically disclose your data in this instance.

     

    Regarding the second, it is institutionalized beliefs that are at the root of this entire problem. The inability to judge the quality of an individual paper, independent of the journal in which it is published, is why journals, and so their owners, have tremendous pricing power. So yes, we'd have to address bias in how any new format would be received. The general approach is to encourage senior scholars, who have more security, to provide their work in their early years in order to build up the journal's profile. If and when it achieves a high impact factor, its online status will come along with it (as others have proved).

     

    That's my take. But I'm going to tail off a bit, as I don't want this to be "Mike's Movement"; all await others to respond to such questions as they arise.

     

    Best,

    Mike

     

    From: Sharfman, Mark P. <msharfman@ou.edu>
    Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 4:47 PM
    To: Michael Barnett <mbarnett@business.rutgers.edu>; SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: RE: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    The concepts of open access/open source are intriguing and have a lot to recommend them.  For me however, there are two key issues that may or may not have been addressed at the IABS meeting so if I am being repetitive please accept my apologies.

     

    First, open source/open access often means access to the data used in the analysis.  While I am fine with that if I am using publically available data or survey data I collected myself, if we are using proprietary datasets (e.g. KLD/MSCI, Asset4 etc.) the contracts for those data prohibit sharing with non-coauthors.  As such, because virtually all of my empirical works uses such datasets, I could not participate in our journal if access to data was a part of the open access/open source requirements.

     

    Secondly, I presume that open access/open source means online.  While I would presume that we would maintain the same editorial rigor that we currently employ, transferring  BAS to an "online" journal runs smack dab into the institutionalized beliefs that online journals just aren't as "good" as regular journals. Unless we had a plan to educate departments around the world about the error of that fallacy that actually would help our brethren who are still worried about tenure and promotion (there are a few advantages of being closer to the end than the beginning of one's career) then again I would not be supportive.

     

    Thoughts?

     

    Mark

     

     

    Mark Sharfman, PhD.

    Puterbaugh Chair in American Enterprise

    Business & Society Associate Editor

    Director, Sports Management Program

    Director (Chair), Division of Management & International Business

    Price College of Business

    307 W. Brooks - Rm. 206A

    University of Oklahoma

    Norman, OK 73019-0450 USA

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    From: Social Issues in Management Listserv [mailto:SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] On Behalf Of Michael Barnett
    Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 3:14 PM
    To: SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Thank you kindly, Nicole. And to all: I've received several inquiries asking "what was decided" at this meeting. The answer: nada. The meeting wasn't a forum for making decisions. Rather, it was intended to build awareness of the issue and to initiate a conversation that will be ongoing for some time. From the meeting, it became evident that some feel strongly about maintaining the journal Business & Society as is, despite the oddity of the current system, while others strongly feel the need to move to an open source format, and yet others feel the weight of both sides but aren't really sure how to process all of this. I know that the leadership of IABS is looking into the issue in depth and will have more information regarding at least procedural issues soon.

     

    Best,

    Mike

     

     

    From: Nicole Darnall <ndarnall@asu.edu>
    Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 4:02 PM
    To: Michael Barnett <mbarnett@business.rutgers.edu>; SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Hi Mike.

     

    I wish to applaud you (and Brad) for initiating such an important conversation. I am hopeful that IABS and SIM will consider the critical ethical question of open access and information sharing. They are core of knowledge advancement and the foundation for our academic research. I support an open and honest discussion about these issues, as well as any effort to imagine what an alternative approach might look like. Count me in!

     

    Thanks again.

     

    Best wishes, Nicole

     

    Nicole Darnall

    Associate Dean

    Professor of Management and Public Policy

    School of Sustainability | Arizona State University 

    Sustainable Purchasing Research Initiative

    +1 602 496 0445 | Publications | Twitter | SPRI

    Assistant: Kimberly.Grout.1@asu.edu | +1 480 727 0957

     

    From: Social Issues in Management Listserv <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Michael Barnett <mbarnett@BUSINESS.RUTGERS.EDU>
    Reply-To: Michael Barnett <mbarnett@BUSINESS.RUTGERS.EDU>
    Date: Monday, March 25, 2019 at 6:06 AM
    To: "SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Dear Fellow SIMians and IABSians:

     

    It was a pleasure to see many of you in San Diego at the IABS 30th anniversary meeting. On Sunday morning, Brad Agle and I convened a meeting to discuss the state of the academic publishing industry. Many could not attend, so I've attached the slides from that lively meeting (absent the extra pictures of Brad) .

     

    Best,

    Mike

     

    PS: I don't seem to have access to the IABS list-serv, and so am sending this to the SIM list, as there is considerable overlap. For anyone with IABS list access, please feel free to share. Thanks.

     

     

    Michael L. Barnett

    Professor of Management & Global Business, and Dean's Research Professor

    Rutgers Business School – Newark & New Brunswick

    http://www.business.rutgers.edu/faculty/michael-barnett

    Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&pli=1&user=27_fCmIAAAAJ

    Interim Executive Director, Rutgers Institute for Corporate Social Innovation

    Incoming Editor-in-Chief, Business & Society

    Fellow, Rutgers Institute for Ethical Leadership

    Fellow, Rutgers Leadership Academy, Class of 2017-19

    Distinguished Visiting Professor, Social Innovations Group, EGADE Business School, Tecnologico de Monterrey

    International Research Fellow, Oxford University Centre for Corporate Reputation

    Latest book, Limits to Stakeholder Influence: https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/limits-to-stakeholder-influence

     

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  • 7.  The odd business of journal publishing

    Posted 03-26-2019 03:27

    Journal impact follows citations. If senior scholars throw their weight behind an open access journal then it will be difficult (if not impossible) to ignore because the citations will accrue. Yes - a plan is needed and implementation won't be easy. Fortunately other fields have many examples that we can learn from.

     

    Tracy, I appreciate you raising the ethical concerns associated the current system and its paywalls. They are real and disproportionately harm scholars in less developed countries, as well as faculty at schools with fewer resources. They also necessarily (and unfortunately) constrain the knowledge enterprise that higher education is intended to advance. We need to challenge ourselves consider new models.

     

    Thanks, again, for inviting the conversation, Mike.

     

    Best wishes,

     

    Nicole Darnall

    Associate Dean

    Professor of Management and Public Policy

    School of Sustainability | Arizona State University 

    Sustainable Purchasing Research Initiative

    +1 602 496 0445 | Publications | Twitter | SPRI

    Assistant: Kimberly.Grout.1@asu.edu | +1 480 727 0957

     

     

    From: Social Issues in Management Listserv <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of "Couto, Tracy" <coutotc@LEMOYNE.EDU>
    Reply-To: "Couto, Tracy" <coutotc@LEMOYNE.EDU>
    Date: Monday, March 25, 2019 at 2:27 PM
    To: "SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: Re: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Long time lurker here. I find the subject fascinating and wanted to chime in with my experience. I have been working with a number of smaller journals to help find a middle of the road solution that leaves the journal in control of their material and copyright but the content is still behind a paywall and the peer review process is systematized. It does require more hands-on time from the editor but the journal ends up with 70% of the profit vs the 6% cited earlier. In some cases this provides a format for both online and printed mediums which has been well-received especially from the international community.

     

    While still in the beginning phases, the initial feedback has been good. Again, these are smaller and lesser known journals who perhaps have less to lose and are working on building impact than a well-established journal. 

     

    For us, we are most concerned with the ethical implications that arise when we are serving those without resources to help democratize access to scholarship, we do so by providing coupon codes to lessen the burden of subscriptions.

     

    I'm encouraged to see the conversation taking place. 

     

    All the best,

    Tracy

     

    On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 4:59 PM Michael Barnett <mbarnett@business.rutgers.edu> wrote:

    Hi Mark. Thanks for bringing those two key issues forward.

     

    Regarding the first, I do not think that open access requires open source. Open source might be yet another issue that needs to be attended to, but I don't think we need to tangle it up in this particular (already complex) conversation. In sum, I don't think you'd have to publically disclose your data in this instance.

     

    Regarding the second, it is institutionalized beliefs that are at the root of this entire problem. The inability to judge the quality of an individual paper, independent of the journal in which it is published, is why journals, and so their owners, have tremendous pricing power. So yes, we'd have to address bias in how any new format would be received. The general approach is to encourage senior scholars, who have more security, to provide their work in their early years in order to build up the journal's profile. If and when it achieves a high impact factor, its online status will come along with it (as others have proved).

     

    That's my take. But I'm going to tail off a bit, as I don't want this to be "Mike's Movement"; all await others to respond to such questions as they arise.

     

    Best,

    Mike

     

    From: Sharfman, Mark P. <msharfman@ou.edu>
    Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 4:47 PM
    To: Michael Barnett <mbarnett@business.rutgers.edu>; SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: RE: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    The concepts of open access/open source are intriguing and have a lot to recommend them.  For me however, there are two key issues that may or may not have been addressed at the IABS meeting so if I am being repetitive please accept my apologies.

     

    First, open source/open access often means access to the data used in the analysis.  While I am fine with that if I am using publically available data or survey data I collected myself, if we are using proprietary datasets (e.g. KLD/MSCI, Asset4 etc.) the contracts for those data prohibit sharing with non-coauthors.  As such, because virtually all of my empirical works uses such datasets, I could not participate in our journal if access to data was a part of the open access/open source requirements.

     

    Secondly, I presume that open access/open source means online.  While I would presume that we would maintain the same editorial rigor that we currently employ, transferring  BAS to an "online" journal runs smack dab into the institutionalized beliefs that online journals just aren't as "good" as regular journals. Unless we had a plan to educate departments around the world about the error of that fallacy that actually would help our brethren who are still worried about tenure and promotion (there are a few advantages of being closer to the end than the beginning of one's career) then again I would not be supportive.

     

    Thoughts?

     

    Mark

     

     

    Mark Sharfman, PhD.

    Puterbaugh Chair in American Enterprise

    Business & Society Associate Editor

    Director, Sports Management Program

    Director (Chair), Division of Management & International Business

    Price College of Business

    307 W. Brooks - Rm. 206A

    University of Oklahoma

    Norman, OK 73019-0450 USA

    +405.325.5689 (voice)

    +405.325.7688 (fax)

    Msharfman@ou.edu

     

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    From: Social Issues in Management Listserv [mailto:SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] On Behalf Of Michael Barnett
    Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 3:14 PM
    To: SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Thank you kindly, Nicole. And to all: I've received several inquiries asking "what was decided" at this meeting. The answer: nada. The meeting wasn't a forum for making decisions. Rather, it was intended to build awareness of the issue and to initiate a conversation that will be ongoing for some time. From the meeting, it became evident that some feel strongly about maintaining the journal Business & Society as is, despite the oddity of the current system, while others strongly feel the need to move to an open source format, and yet others feel the weight of both sides but aren't really sure how to process all of this. I know that the leadership of IABS is looking into the issue in depth and will have more information regarding at least procedural issues soon.

     

    Best,

    Mike

     

     

    From: Nicole Darnall <ndarnall@asu.edu>
    Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 4:02 PM
    To: Michael Barnett <mbarnett@business.rutgers.edu>; SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Hi Mike.

     

    I wish to applaud you (and Brad) for initiating such an important conversation. I am hopeful that IABS and SIM will consider the critical ethical question of open access and information sharing. They are core of knowledge advancement and the foundation for our academic research. I support an open and honest discussion about these issues, as well as any effort to imagine what an alternative approach might look like. Count me in!

     

    Thanks again.

     

    Best wishes, Nicole

     

    Nicole Darnall

    Associate Dean

    Professor of Management and Public Policy

    School of Sustainability | Arizona State University 

    Sustainable Purchasing Research Initiative

    +1 602 496 0445 | Publications | Twitter | SPRI

    Assistant: Kimberly.Grout.1@asu.edu | +1 480 727 0957

     

    From: Social Issues in Management Listserv <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Michael Barnett <mbarnett@BUSINESS.RUTGERS.EDU>
    Reply-To: Michael Barnett <mbarnett@BUSINESS.RUTGERS.EDU>
    Date: Monday, March 25, 2019 at 6:06 AM
    To: "SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Dear Fellow SIMians and IABSians:

     

    It was a pleasure to see many of you in San Diego at the IABS 30th anniversary meeting. On Sunday morning, Brad Agle and I convened a meeting to discuss the state of the academic publishing industry. Many could not attend, so I've attached the slides from that lively meeting (absent the extra pictures of Brad) .

     

    Best,

    Mike

     

    PS: I don't seem to have access to the IABS list-serv, and so am sending this to the SIM list, as there is considerable overlap. For anyone with IABS list access, please feel free to share. Thanks.

     

     

    Michael L. Barnett

    Professor of Management & Global Business, and Dean's Research Professor

    Rutgers Business School – Newark & New Brunswick

    http://www.business.rutgers.edu/faculty/michael-barnett

    Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&pli=1&user=27_fCmIAAAAJ

    Interim Executive Director, Rutgers Institute for Corporate Social Innovation

    Incoming Editor-in-Chief, Business & Society

    Fellow, Rutgers Institute for Ethical Leadership

    Fellow, Rutgers Leadership Academy, Class of 2017-19

    Distinguished Visiting Professor, Social Innovations Group, EGADE Business School, Tecnologico de Monterrey

    International Research Fellow, Oxford University Centre for Corporate Reputation

    Latest book, Limits to Stakeholder Influence: https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/limits-to-stakeholder-influence

     

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    Director of the Global Jesuit Case Series
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  • 8.  The odd business of journal publishing

    Posted 03-26-2019 14:28

    Hi Karen.

     

    I have two quick examples. Neither are perfect, but both they are worthy of some consideration.

     

    One of the great concerns about open access journals is their quality. Assuming that impact factor is correlated with journal quality, Nature Communication is a very high quality journal, ranking third among Multidisciplinary Science journals (behind Nature and Science) JCR IF 12.353. Beginning in 2016, this journal went fully open access. Sure, it's not Nature or Science, but it is a solid journal.

     

    Another example relates to a flagship professional association that walked away from a mainstay press because of frustrations with the publisher's policies. The Association of Environmental and Resource Economists (AERE) was originally affiliated with Elsevier's Journal of Environmental Economics and Management (JEEM). The 900 members of AERE devoted much energy to making JEEM the top journal in the field. Beginning in 2014, AERE discontinued identifying with JEEM and started a new journal, JAERE. It was a risky move. JAERE would be competing with JEEM and it was unclear whether the new journal could get off the ground. It did do so because of its heavy hitting editorial board and the weight that senior scholars put behind the new journal. It now rivals JEEM in journal quality and ranking. Where this example falls short is that the new press is not fully open access (it has the typical green/gold open access policy), although it does illustrate the idea that journal impact follows citations.

     

    In both instances, transitions were complicated. It takes time to build a new journal. In the interim, junior scholars are likely to focus their attention elsewhere. Existing (traditional) journals that shift to open access have to figure out ways to pay for their basic work, etc. So – implementation will be thorny.

     

    Best wishes, Nicole

     

    Nicole Darnall

    Associate Dean

    Professor of Management and Public Policy

    School of Sustainability | Arizona State University 

    Sustainable Purchasing Research Initiative

    +1 602 496 0445 | Publications | Twitter | SPRI

    Assistant: Kimberly.Grout.1@asu.edu | +1 480 727 0957

     

    From: Karen Paul <karenkpaul@gmail.com>
    Date: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 8:01 AM
    To: "ndarnall@asu.edu" <ndarnall@asu.edu>
    Cc: "SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: Re: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Thanks for the response, Nicole. Can you give me the examples you allude to? Best wishes, Karen Paul


    On Mar 26, 2019, at 3:26 AM, Nicole Darnall <ndarnall@asu.edu> wrote:

    Journal impact follows citations. If senior scholars throw their weight behind an open access journal then it will be difficult (if not impossible) to ignore because the citations will accrue. Yes - a plan is needed and implementation won't be easy. Fortunately other fields have many examples that we can learn from.

     

    Tracy, I appreciate you raising the ethical concerns associated the current system and its paywalls. They are real and disproportionately harm scholars in less developed countries, as well as faculty at schools with fewer resources. They also necessarily (and unfortunately) constrain the knowledge enterprise that higher education is intended to advance. We need to challenge ourselves consider new models.

     

    Thanks, again, for inviting the conversation, Mike.

     

    Best wishes,

     

    Nicole Darnall

    Associate Dean

    Professor of Management and Public Policy

    School of Sustainability | Arizona State University 

    Sustainable Purchasing Research Initiative

    +1 602 496 0445 | Publications | Twitter | SPRI

    Assistant: Kimberly.Grout.1@asu.edu | +1 480 727 0957

     

     

    From: Social Issues in Management Listserv <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of "Couto, Tracy" <coutotc@LEMOYNE.EDU>
    Reply-To: "Couto, Tracy" <coutotc@LEMOYNE.EDU>
    Date: Monday, March 25, 2019 at 2:27 PM
    To: "SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: Re: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Long time lurker here. I find the subject fascinating and wanted to chime in with my experience. I have been working with a number of smaller journals to help find a middle of the road solution that leaves the journal in control of their material and copyright but the content is still behind a paywall and the peer review process is systematized. It does require more hands-on time from the editor but the journal ends up with 70% of the profit vs the 6% cited earlier. In some cases this provides a format for both online and printed mediums which has been well-received especially from the international community.

     

    While still in the beginning phases, the initial feedback has been good. Again, these are smaller and lesser known journals who perhaps have less to lose and are working on building impact than a well-established journal. 

     

    For us, we are most concerned with the ethical implications that arise when we are serving those without resources to help democratize access to scholarship, we do so by providing coupon codes to lessen the burden of subscriptions.

     

    I'm encouraged to see the conversation taking place. 

     

    All the best,

    Tracy

     

    On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 4:59 PM Michael Barnett <mbarnett@business.rutgers.edu> wrote:

    Hi Mark. Thanks for bringing those two key issues forward.

     

    Regarding the first, I do not think that open access requires open source. Open source might be yet another issue that needs to be attended to, but I don't think we need to tangle it up in this particular (already complex) conversation. In sum, I don't think you'd have to publically disclose your data in this instance.

     

    Regarding the second, it is institutionalized beliefs that are at the root of this entire problem. The inability to judge the quality of an individual paper, independent of the journal in which it is published, is why journals, and so their owners, have tremendous pricing power. So yes, we'd have to address bias in how any new format would be received. The general approach is to encourage senior scholars, who have more security, to provide their work in their early years in order to build up the journal's profile. If and when it achieves a high impact factor, its online status will come along with it (as others have proved).

     

    That's my take. But I'm going to tail off a bit, as I don't want this to be "Mike's Movement"; all await others to respond to such questions as they arise.

     

    Best,

    Mike

     

    From: Sharfman, Mark P. <msharfman@ou.edu>
    Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 4:47 PM
    To: Michael Barnett <mbarnett@business.rutgers.edu>; SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: RE: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    The concepts of open access/open source are intriguing and have a lot to recommend them.  For me however, there are two key issues that may or may not have been addressed at the IABS meeting so if I am being repetitive please accept my apologies.

     

    First, open source/open access often means access to the data used in the analysis.  While I am fine with that if I am using publically available data or survey data I collected myself, if we are using proprietary datasets (e.g. KLD/MSCI, Asset4 etc.) the contracts for those data prohibit sharing with non-coauthors.  As such, because virtually all of my empirical works uses such datasets, I could not participate in our journal if access to data was a part of the open access/open source requirements.

     

    Secondly, I presume that open access/open source means online.  While I would presume that we would maintain the same editorial rigor that we currently employ, transferring  BAS to an "online" journal runs smack dab into the institutionalized beliefs that online journals just aren't as "good" as regular journals. Unless we had a plan to educate departments around the world about the error of that fallacy that actually would help our brethren who are still worried about tenure and promotion (there are a few advantages of being closer to the end than the beginning of one's career) then again I would not be supportive.

     

    Thoughts?

     

    Mark

     

     

    Mark Sharfman, PhD.

    Puterbaugh Chair in American Enterprise

    Business & Society Associate Editor

    Director, Sports Management Program

    Director (Chair), Division of Management & International Business

    Price College of Business

    307 W. Brooks - Rm. 206A

    University of Oklahoma

    Norman, OK 73019-0450 USA

    +405.325.5689 (voice)

    +405.325.7688 (fax)

    Msharfman@ou.edu

     

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    From: Social Issues in Management Listserv [mailto:SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] On Behalf Of Michael Barnett
    Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 3:14 PM
    To: SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Thank you kindly, Nicole. And to all: I've received several inquiries asking "what was decided" at this meeting. The answer: nada. The meeting wasn't a forum for making decisions. Rather, it was intended to build awareness of the issue and to initiate a conversation that will be ongoing for some time. From the meeting, it became evident that some feel strongly about maintaining the journal Business & Society as is, despite the oddity of the current system, while others strongly feel the need to move to an open source format, and yet others feel the weight of both sides but aren't really sure how to process all of this. I know that the leadership of IABS is looking into the issue in depth and will have more information regarding at least procedural issues soon.

     

    Best,

    Mike

     

     

    From: Nicole Darnall <ndarnall@asu.edu>
    Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 4:02 PM
    To: Michael Barnett <mbarnett@business.rutgers.edu>; SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Hi Mike.

     

    I wish to applaud you (and Brad) for initiating such an important conversation. I am hopeful that IABS and SIM will consider the critical ethical question of open access and information sharing. They are core of knowledge advancement and the foundation for our academic research. I support an open and honest discussion about these issues, as well as any effort to imagine what an alternative approach might look like. Count me in!

     

    Thanks again.

     

    Best wishes, Nicole

     

    Nicole Darnall

    Associate Dean

    Professor of Management and Public Policy

    School of Sustainability | Arizona State University 

    Sustainable Purchasing Research Initiative

    +1 602 496 0445 | Publications | Twitter | SPRI

    Assistant: Kimberly.Grout.1@asu.edu | +1 480 727 0957

     

    From: Social Issues in Management Listserv <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Michael Barnett <mbarnett@BUSINESS.RUTGERS.EDU>
    Reply-To: Michael Barnett <mbarnett@BUSINESS.RUTGERS.EDU>
    Date: Monday, March 25, 2019 at 6:06 AM
    To: "SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <SIM@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: [SIM] The odd business of journal publishing

     

    Dear Fellow SIMians and IABSians:

     

    It was a pleasure to see many of you in San Diego at the IABS 30th anniversary meeting. On Sunday morning, Brad Agle and I convened a meeting to discuss the state of the academic publishing industry. Many could not attend, so I've attached the slides from that lively meeting (absent the extra pictures of Brad) .

     

    Best,

    Mike

     

    PS: I don't seem to have access to the IABS list-serv, and so am sending this to the SIM list, as there is considerable overlap. For anyone with IABS list access, please feel free to share. Thanks.

     

     

    Michael L. Barnett

    Professor of Management & Global Business, and Dean's Research Professor

    Rutgers Business School – Newark & New Brunswick

    http://www.business.rutgers.edu/faculty/michael-barnett

    Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&pli=1&user=27_fCmIAAAAJ

    Interim Executive Director, Rutgers Institute for Corporate Social Innovation

    Incoming Editor-in-Chief, Business & Society

    Fellow, Rutgers Institute for Ethical Leadership

    Fellow, Rutgers Leadership Academy, Class of 2017-19

    Distinguished Visiting Professor, Social Innovations Group, EGADE Business School, Tecnologico de Monterrey

    International Research Fellow, Oxford University Centre for Corporate Reputation

    Latest book, Limits to Stakeholder Influence: https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/limits-to-stakeholder-influence

     

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